[00:00:07] Speaker A: Hey, everybody, it's Rick and Rob. Welcome back to the Nomad Pastor podcast.
[00:00:10] Speaker B: I'm digging the reverb on that acoustic guitar.
[00:00:12] Speaker A: I like it.
[00:00:13] Speaker B: That's pretty smooth. Yeah, I like it.
[00:00:14] Speaker A: It's not bad at all.
[00:00:15] Speaker B: Yeah, it's cool.
[00:00:16] Speaker A: A little different.
[00:00:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:00:18] Speaker A: How things going for you?
[00:00:19] Speaker B: Busy, but good.
[00:00:21] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:00:21] Speaker B: We've been, you know, running all over the country and.
[00:00:25] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:00:25] Speaker B: Still trying to figure out that it's going.
[00:00:31] Speaker A: It doesn't work.
[00:00:31] Speaker B: It doesn't. It doesn't.
[00:00:33] Speaker A: It doesn't work.
[00:00:34] Speaker B: And. And the crazy thing about it is, you know, not only.
Not only am I, you know, still.
Case in point, I'll say it like this. So today, earlier this today, I spent about an hour and a half just straightening out email addresses for guys in the crew.
[00:01:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:01:01] Speaker B: Right.
[00:01:02] Speaker A: Do you have a requirement on what their email address looks like?
[00:01:04] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:01:05] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:01:05] Speaker B: Yes. So we own a domain.
[00:01:06] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:01:07] Speaker B: We own Lazarus 62 Mc.com.
[00:01:09] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:01:10] Speaker B: Okay. So, had to change, you know, president at Lazar six Mc.com, vice president, you know, saa.
[00:01:20] Speaker A: Hold on.
[00:01:20] Speaker B: Yours. And then. Now then I'm just Batman at Lazarus 62 mc.com. Dot.
[00:01:26] Speaker A: Don't you get a big dog email address now because you're a national?
[00:01:30] Speaker B: No.
So anyway, I, you know, spent them. Spent about an hour and a half, you know, getting things straightened out, fixing some other payment issues. Yeah. Got all that worked out. And then get, you know, a phone call from prospect from up north that, you know, wants to bend my ear about building his charter.
And I'm like, I'm. I'm not a p anymore. No, you're a national officer and a rivet.
Okay, let's talk. Yeah. You know, so it's been that kind of, you know, and I'm not down in that. You know, I'm not above that. I'm not saying that. But what I am saying is, you know, the gear shift from p. The national officer is still in neutral. I don't know if it's in neutral. I think I'm kind of grinding in that gear.
[00:02:20] Speaker A: Grinding? Grinding into.
[00:02:22] Speaker B: Trying to find. Yeah. I'm trying to figure out how to synchronize it. Yeah. But it's working.
[00:02:27] Speaker A: I'm just trying to get rid of all responsibility.
[00:02:29] Speaker B: You trying to be a jam. Just a member.
[00:02:31] Speaker A: Just a member.
[00:02:32] Speaker B: Just a member. Yeah. You know, so, yeah.
[00:02:35] Speaker A: Any BFC people are listening.
I got my eye on you.
I'm looking out. Yeah.
[00:02:45] Speaker B: Y'all better mind your P's and Q's. You get to get the phone call.
[00:02:49] Speaker A: So, look, today we want to talk about unity.
[00:02:53] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:02:54] Speaker A: And, you know, I think it's a great topic because, you know, just look at us. Right. Like we're different.
[00:03:00] Speaker B: You're.
[00:03:00] Speaker A: You're in a christian MC. I'm in an. Mm.
[00:03:02] Speaker B: Different.
[00:03:03] Speaker A: Different ministry lives, but still the same boss.
[00:03:07] Speaker B: Right, right.
[00:03:07] Speaker A: And we work through this united.
[00:03:09] Speaker B: Right, right, exactly.
[00:03:10] Speaker A: And we have several friends in other ministries. Sure, right, sure.
[00:03:14] Speaker B: Um, but we worked a lot together.
[00:03:17] Speaker A: Absolutely. Yeah.
[00:03:19] Speaker B: Go ahead.
[00:03:19] Speaker A: You know, here locally, we got Tribe of Judah and.
[00:03:21] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. CMA.
[00:03:23] Speaker A: CMA. And several others.
[00:03:25] Speaker B: Right. There's a few others. Yeah.
[00:03:26] Speaker A: And. And we just.
We just get out and do it for Christ.
[00:03:31] Speaker B: Right, right.
[00:03:32] Speaker A: You know, we love motorcycles, of course, but.
[00:03:34] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:03:34] Speaker A: Right. We love God more.
[00:03:36] Speaker B: Amen. Amen.
[00:03:37] Speaker A: And the community sees that unity in us, and I think if, you know, I think there's probably areas of the country where they don't see that unity in christian clubs.
[00:03:47] Speaker B: Yeah, I would think so.
[00:03:48] Speaker A: And.
[00:03:49] Speaker B: Well, I know so. I know so.
[00:03:51] Speaker A: You probably, you know better than I do. Yeah. You know, but, you know, because you're. You're actively outgoing and trying to grow more.
[00:03:57] Speaker B: Right, right.
[00:03:57] Speaker A: And, you know, we're not an emcee, and so it's a little different for us.
[00:04:04] Speaker B: Right. Yeah. We don't have the same set of guidelines.
[00:04:08] Speaker A: Requirements.
[00:04:08] Speaker B: Right. That's a good idea. That's a good way to put it.
[00:04:11] Speaker A: Yeah, we don't have the same requirements.
[00:04:12] Speaker B: Requirements, yeah.
[00:04:13] Speaker A: To be, you know, to be an emcee.
Not that I don't think we should, but, yeah. You know, we are rolling out some new processes. Right. We have our national calls for that to be more streamlined across the country.
[00:04:29] Speaker B: Right.
[00:04:30] Speaker A: To do things the same. And so we're, you know, to be more united as a ministry.
[00:04:34] Speaker B: There you go.
[00:04:35] Speaker A: Right.
[00:04:35] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:04:36] Speaker A: And I'm listening to what they're doing, and I'm like, we've been doing that for, like, five years.
[00:04:41] Speaker B: Y'all catch up. Yeah.
[00:04:43] Speaker A: Which is awesome. Right. It's awesome to see national taking those steps. And.
And, you know, I think part of the problem is when we're not united, when we're saying different things or we're fighting with each other, the community that we minister to sees that.
[00:04:59] Speaker B: Oh, absolutely sees it.
[00:05:00] Speaker A: They see it and they question it.
[00:05:02] Speaker B: Mm hmm.
[00:05:03] Speaker A: Like, why don't you love that guy?
[00:05:04] Speaker B: Right, right.
[00:05:07] Speaker A: Why are you guys fighting?
[00:05:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
And have you ever been asked that question?
[00:05:12] Speaker A: I have, yeah. Yeah.
[00:05:14] Speaker B: And it doesn't matter how you answer it in. In whatever vein you use to answer it in.
[00:05:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:05:22] Speaker B: There's still that awkward silence where they go.
Okay.
[00:05:27] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:05:27] Speaker B: You know, like I don't buy this line of bull anyway, you know, and, and having been asked the question before.
[00:05:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:05:37] Speaker B: And, and the question that I got asked about was things that had happened in the past.
When I say past before me.
[00:05:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:05:48] Speaker B: Before I, let me say before I was in an emcee, we'll say it that way.
[00:05:52] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I know where you're like, you know, we're not going to name names.
[00:05:55] Speaker B: No, but, no, no.
[00:05:57] Speaker A: You know, but before I was in.
[00:05:58] Speaker B: An emcee, the things that happened even between different Christian MC's in the state of Tennessee.
[00:06:05] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:06:06] Speaker B: You know, and so I'm thankful today for a regime change across the board of leadership in Christian MC's that are wanting to, not just in the state of Tennessee, but across the country.
[00:06:24] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:06:25] Speaker B: To be united in the front for furthering the kingdom of God.
[00:06:30] Speaker A: It's the way it should be.
[00:06:31] Speaker B: It should be, you know, it should.
[00:06:32] Speaker A: Be because we do have other Christian MC's here. We got sons of God, we got, you know, soldiers for Jesus.
[00:06:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:06:38] Speaker A: You know, repented. Yeah, there's, there's several others.
[00:06:42] Speaker B: Right.
[00:06:43] Speaker A: And they're.
[00:06:43] Speaker B: Right.
[00:06:44] Speaker A: I have friends in all of them. They're all amazing. I would not saying anything negative about their ministries or, you know, their walk.
[00:06:51] Speaker B: Yeah, no, no, no, not at all.
[00:06:53] Speaker A: But I think, you know, I've talked with other regions of BFC members and it seems like there is some animosity at times.
[00:07:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:07:04] Speaker A: Like, oh, why are you trying to step on my toes? Or you're just an MM.
And so that, you know, sometimes is.
[00:07:11] Speaker B: Disheartening and, and the disheartening part of that is the effect that it has across the broad spectrum.
[00:07:21] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:07:22] Speaker B: You know, and I hate it. So let's get into some scripture here.
[00:07:27] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. So it's gonna be one corinthians 110. Do you wanna read it?
[00:07:31] Speaker B: Sure, I'll read it from the NASB 1995.
Now I exhort you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all agree and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be made complete in the same mind and in the same judgment.
Read it from the NIV.
[00:07:52] Speaker A: So the NIV says, I appeal to you brothers and sisters, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought.
[00:08:08] Speaker B: So I like there's, there's parts of the NIV that I like better than NASB and parts of the NASB that I like better in this particular verse.
[00:08:18] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely.
[00:08:19] Speaker B: Right. Like where the NASB said that there be no divisions among you or back up, that you all agree, and that there be known divisions among you. The NIV exposits on that a little bit more and says, reread it again.
[00:08:37] Speaker A: That all you agree with one another in what you say and what you say, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought.
[00:08:48] Speaker B: Right.
[00:08:50] Speaker A: And I think that's critical. Right. Perfectly united in mind and thought because.
[00:08:57] Speaker B: We'Re striving for the same goal.
[00:09:01] Speaker A: It's the great commission. Right.
[00:09:02] Speaker B: It is. It exactly is.
[00:09:04] Speaker A: It's plan a. There's no plan b.
[00:09:06] Speaker B: There's. And there's no room to change plan a.
[00:09:09] Speaker A: Right, right.
[00:09:11] Speaker B: So everything is just. You know, I saw the story of Ken Sparks last night. Do you know who that is?
[00:09:19] Speaker A: No, I do not.
[00:09:19] Speaker B: Ken Sparks was a head football coach coach for Carson Newman University.
[00:09:27] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:09:28] Speaker B: And he was the football coach. Head football coach for 40 some years at Carson Newman. The winningest coach in NCAA Division two football.
And if in NCAA period, he's in between Bear Bryant and Bobby Bowden. Wow, that's the caliber of coach this guy is.
But his mindset from the day that he became a coach until he died in 2017 was not so much about football, but about winning souls and making men out of the football players that he had.
And his. His explanation when he retired of things that were going on in his life were things changed. But football is always basic blocking, basic tackling, and basic moving the football.
And I got to thinking about that last night, and I thought Christianity and my walk with Christ is basically three things, okay? It's basically following Jesus, communing with him, and telling others about him.
[00:10:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:10:58] Speaker B: That's Christianity in a nutshell.
[00:11:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:02] Speaker B: Right.
[00:11:03] Speaker A: And I don't know how anybody could dispute that.
[00:11:06] Speaker B: You can't.
[00:11:06] Speaker A: Right.
[00:11:07] Speaker B: So when we get into things that cause a break in the unity of the body and we get into, what.
[00:11:16] Speaker A: Would some of those things be?
[00:11:19] Speaker B: The difference?
Sprinkling versus baptism. How many different forms of baptism?
[00:11:34] Speaker A: I mean, biblically, there's one.
[00:11:36] Speaker B: Right, right.
You're going under Hoss.
[00:11:42] Speaker A: Right, right.
[00:11:43] Speaker B: But because there are people who sprinkle, there are people who just will just squat down in the water. There are people who are like, oh, his fingertip wasn't completely underwater. You got to baptize him again.
[00:11:55] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:55] Speaker B: Right.
[00:11:56] Speaker A: Well, we saw that with the Kat von d thing.
[00:11:58] Speaker B: Right, exactly.
[00:11:59] Speaker A: Well, her hand didn't go in.
[00:12:00] Speaker B: Right.
[00:12:01] Speaker A: She's a sinner.
[00:12:02] Speaker B: So that's, that's my point. We have all these things that we define and we, we get into or we get away from the basics of blocking, the basics of tackling, and the basics of moving the football.
[00:12:18] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:12:19] Speaker B: There's two ways to move the football.
Somebody runs it or somebody passes it and then he runs after it.
[00:12:26] Speaker A: That's right. That's right.
[00:12:27] Speaker B: Right. So in, in our christian lives, to follow Jesus, commune with Jesus, and further the kingdom.
That's, that's, that's it.
That's as basic.
[00:12:41] Speaker A: So why do we make it so hard be.
[00:12:45] Speaker B: You're gonna make me say it, aren't you? Yeah, you're gonna make me.
You're gonna make me.
[00:12:52] Speaker A: Why do we make it so hard?
[00:12:53] Speaker B: Me ism?
[00:12:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:12:55] Speaker B: Because we want what we, we see something.
Let's take service, for instance.
[00:13:03] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:13:04] Speaker B: Okay.
And there's all different kinds.
[00:13:08] Speaker A: Let's clarify. Church service. Right.
[00:13:10] Speaker B: Service for the kingdom, not just a church service.
[00:13:13] Speaker A: So I just want to make sure that I understand.
[00:13:14] Speaker B: I'm talking about serving. All right? Serving.
[00:13:17] Speaker A: Serving people.
[00:13:18] Speaker B: Serving people. Right.
Why is it that people will only go feed the homeless Thanksgiving day?
Why will christians only go either to the rescue mission under the bridge, all for him, ministry around a holiday or around Thanksgiving?
[00:13:43] Speaker A: I'm going to be honest.
[00:13:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:13:45] Speaker A: Yeah. I think they feel guilty.
[00:13:47] Speaker B: They feel guilty.
[00:13:48] Speaker A: I think a lot of people, for whatever reason, in the time of holiday when they have such joy about everything that they have, they feel guilty and like, oh, I better go get back.
[00:14:03] Speaker B: So it's kind of like the trading spaces. Trading places movie. Yeah, exactly.
[00:14:09] Speaker A: Yeah. I absolutely believe.
[00:14:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:11] Speaker A: You know, it's a great opportunity for them to check the box.
[00:14:15] Speaker B: So is checking the box versus a willingness.
What's. Let me back up a little bit. What's the difference in checking the box and a willingness to serve?
[00:14:31] Speaker A: Well, so what I would say is if you're willing to serve, you're willing to serve when they need it, not when you want to.
[00:14:37] Speaker B: That's the problem with unity.
[00:14:39] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:40] Speaker B: Because it's when we want to do it.
[00:14:43] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:43] Speaker B: And so all these, all these things get muddled and cluttered because. Well, I don't want to do that.
[00:14:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:51] Speaker B: Just like baptism.
[00:14:53] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:55] Speaker B: I only want to be sprinkled.
[00:15:00] Speaker A: Look, I do a lot of things I don't want to do.
[00:15:02] Speaker B: Paul talks about that.
[00:15:04] Speaker A: Yeah, he does.
[00:15:05] Speaker B: So we lose the hand, the hand to hand of unity.
[00:15:13] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:15:14] Speaker B: Because of our selfish nature.
[00:15:16] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, and it is selfish. Like, you know, I'll give you an example. Last Saturday, we went to a house, right?
And I had told, you know, everybody in BFC, like, hey, Saturday night, I'm gonna do this. We'll meet here. But, you know, we shouldn't go alone.
[00:15:32] Speaker B: No.
[00:15:33] Speaker A: Right.
[00:15:33] Speaker B: No.
[00:15:34] Speaker A: And so I'm sitting there waiting, you know, I'm sitting there waiting, like, is somebody gonna show up? You know, it would have been one thing if I would have known, like, oh, well, you know, forge is gonna be there, because it's like, you and I have went to. We've gone several, because together, we're above reproach. Right. So I'm sitting there, and I'm like, well, maybe nobody will show up, and I can just go home.
[00:15:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:15:55] Speaker A: Right. That's the wrong thing to say. Right.
[00:16:01] Speaker B: Right.
[00:16:01] Speaker A: Well, here comes goat. And I told him, I was like, I wasn't sure you were coming. I was about to go home and take a nap.
I was kind of looking forward to that.
[00:16:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:10] Speaker A: You know, but what happens is, we go to this house, and it's just seed planting.
[00:16:14] Speaker B: Right.
[00:16:14] Speaker A: I mean, it's amazing.
[00:16:15] Speaker B: Amazing time.
[00:16:16] Speaker A: Right?
[00:16:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:17] Speaker A: And because we went there and we were united in what we were supposed to do.
[00:16:24] Speaker B: Mm hmm.
Yep.
[00:16:27] Speaker A: Right?
[00:16:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:28] Speaker A: We were serving, even maybe when we didn't want to, like, I had made the commitment to go do it, and I was like, oh, I should have never said this.
[00:16:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
Yeah.
[00:16:39] Speaker A: But I'm glad I did. So praise God that I did.
[00:16:42] Speaker B: Amen. Praise God that you did. Especially with the stories that came out of that.
So the thing that we miss in unity is not just being above reproach, but that accountability that it affords us, so that our walk continues. Our walk continues to move more towards Jesus.
We're strengthened in that.
[00:17:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:13] Speaker B: And there's nothing to be boastful of, because we didn't do it by ourself.
[00:17:19] Speaker A: That's right.
[00:17:22] Speaker B: And to me, that's the core of unity.
You get to do it as a whole. You get to minister as a whole.
[00:17:30] Speaker A: Let me ask you this, because last week, we talked about forgiveness.
How can you be united if you don't forgive?
[00:17:36] Speaker B: You can't.
You can't.
[00:17:38] Speaker A: You can't.
[00:17:40] Speaker B: You absolutely cannot.
[00:17:41] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:43] Speaker B: It's. It's impossible. And when. When.
And I'm not trying to revamp what we talked about last week.
[00:17:52] Speaker A: I know that forgiveness.
[00:17:53] Speaker B: Right. Okay. But what I'm saying is when. When that forgiveness causes disunity either in the body of Christ, in the church, or in BFC. Forged brotherhood, mc whatever.
When that lack of unity causes those. When forgiveness causes that disunity, the dynamic of what our mission is that we've called to get split.
[00:18:30] Speaker A: Absolutely. It does.
[00:18:32] Speaker B: And once that, once, once that core is split and we no longer understand what the mission that we're called to is because of disunity, we have completely destroyed anything that we had built for the kingdom of God.
Completely destroyed it.
[00:18:55] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:18:56] Speaker B: And there's no way. I can't say you can't build it back.
But the reluctance of other people to allow you to build it back, that's the key. Is going to be massive.
[00:19:09] Speaker A: Yeah. That is the key.
[00:19:11] Speaker B: People will be reluctant and reluctant to listen to what the Holy Spirit is saying through us.
[00:19:18] Speaker A: Well, because how can you tell them to forgive, to love.
[00:19:24] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:19:25] Speaker A: To do all these things, to be united. How can you tell them to be united if you're.
[00:19:28] Speaker B: If you're not doing it, if you're not.
[00:19:30] Speaker A: If you're not walking it out?
[00:19:32] Speaker B: Right.
[00:19:33] Speaker A: You have no right to tell somebody.
[00:19:35] Speaker B: None.
[00:19:35] Speaker A: Right.
[00:19:36] Speaker B: None.
[00:19:37] Speaker A: And I feel like the reason, you know, Christianity is growing so fast in other countries, like third world countries, is because we don't have all the drama.
[00:19:50] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree with that.
[00:19:52] Speaker A: They don't have all that.
[00:19:53] Speaker B: They don't have that.
[00:19:53] Speaker A: They don't have all the back and forth infighting. Bite back. You did this to me. All they have is Christ.
All they see is the blood that Christ spilled for them.
And they're united in the fact that that blood forgives.
[00:20:17] Speaker B: Yep.
Let me lay something else on you.
[00:20:23] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:20:24] Speaker B: Okay.
We allow socioeconomical classes.
Let me trudge this lightly, okay? No, I'm not gonna trudge it lightly.
[00:20:36] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:20:37] Speaker B: Just say we allow socioeconomical classes to dictate how much we want to be involved in ministry.
[00:20:43] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:43] Speaker B: Okay. Third world countries, all are barefooted on dirt floors.
[00:20:48] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:48] Speaker B: So they don't have anything to compare themselves to.
[00:20:51] Speaker A: No, they don't.
[00:20:53] Speaker B: They don't. Right. So it's easy for them.
I'll say, easier for them to live in a unified way with each other, to build each other instead of what we have classified ourselves in.
In western christian society.
[00:21:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:21:18] Speaker B: Now hear me say this, folks. I'm not against money.
I'm not against it.
I'm not saying that you can't. That you can't have money and minister, or you can't have money and be unified.
[00:21:35] Speaker A: Yeah. But the que, like, the question has to be like, where do you put that money? Or is that money ahead of Christ?
[00:21:44] Speaker B: That's what I was gonna say.
[00:21:45] Speaker A: Right.
[00:21:45] Speaker B: What does that money do for you?
[00:21:47] Speaker A: Right.
[00:21:47] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:21:48] Speaker A: You know, are you idolizing the paycheck that you get?
[00:21:51] Speaker B: Right.
[00:21:51] Speaker A: Oh, I'm so good at this.
[00:21:52] Speaker B: Yes. Yes.
[00:21:53] Speaker A: You know?
[00:21:54] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:21:54] Speaker A: I think that, you know, before I came to Christ and even early in my walk, I was really big about, like, oh, I'm gonna be this type of person. Right. I'm gonna get this in my professional life.
And now I'm like, God's going to give me what I need.
[00:22:10] Speaker B: Yep. Yep.
[00:22:12] Speaker A: And if he gives me more, praise God.
[00:22:14] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:22:14] Speaker A: It's all because of him.
[00:22:16] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:22:16] Speaker A: And we'll give some of it away.
Right.
[00:22:19] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:22:20] Speaker A: We're going to take what we need to live. We'll give away what we don't need.
[00:22:23] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:22:24] Speaker A: Right. And so, yeah, it's.
It's a.
I think it's hard for some people to recognize if they haven't had a true change of heart. And when you've had a true heart change, unity is easy.
[00:22:42] Speaker B: Easy, easy.
[00:22:44] Speaker A: Right.
[00:22:44] Speaker B: And if you allow that change to keep going.
[00:22:47] Speaker A: That's right. That's right. And that's why if they don't. If people on the outside, non christians, don't see unity, they see your heart.
[00:23:00] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:23:01] Speaker A: They see your heart not being united. They see your heart not being forgiven, not being loving, not being all of these things, not being christlike.
[00:23:12] Speaker B: Yep, yep.
[00:23:14] Speaker A: So when you think about, well, I'm not united or I don't have unity or I'm upset at this person.
Well, what you're saying is that you haven't had a heart change.
[00:23:24] Speaker B: Yes, absolutely. Absolutely.
[00:23:28] Speaker A: Can.
I'm sure somebody's gonna hear that and they're gonna try to spin it in any one of a million ways. Well, but you can't.
[00:23:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:23:38] Speaker A: Right.
[00:23:38] Speaker B: Really can't. I mean, that's the bottom line.
[00:23:41] Speaker A: If you've had a real heart change, you would be united in your feelings.
[00:23:46] Speaker B: Amen.
[00:23:46] Speaker A: Right.
[00:23:46] Speaker B: Amen.
[00:23:48] Speaker A: Because he says, right.
That all you agree with one another in what you say and that there are no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought.
[00:24:04] Speaker B: Right.
[00:24:04] Speaker A: If you've had a heart change, you're gonna be united in mind and thought, you're gonna be united, that Christ went to the cross and died for your sins, that you don't deserve the grace that he has freely given you, that you just have to accept it.
[00:24:19] Speaker B: So the NASB says. But that you may be made complete.
[00:24:23] Speaker A: Yeah. Amen.
[00:24:25] Speaker B: And I think that's where unity defines us, is it completes us because when we are unified in Christ and unified in that same judgment, in the same mind, in the same thought, like what yours says or what the NIV says, then. Then that completes us as the body.
[00:24:51] Speaker A: Well, and cuz throughout scripture. We're not meant to do this alone.
[00:24:54] Speaker B: No, no.
[00:24:55] Speaker A: Where anybody.
Let me apologize first. But anybody who thinks like I used to think. Right. Well, I don't. I don't need people. I could just stay home and watch church service online. I don't need to be hanging out with people. Yeah, that's the lie that you're telling yourself.
[00:25:13] Speaker B: Amen.
[00:25:13] Speaker A: That's the lie that the adversary has said, stay home. It'll be okay. You're getting what you need.
[00:25:20] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:21] Speaker A: You're not.
[00:25:21] Speaker B: No. You're not getting anything close to what you need.
[00:25:25] Speaker A: Now, look, if you're too sick to.
[00:25:27] Speaker B: Go to church, that's a different story.
[00:25:29] Speaker A: It's entirely different.
But I would also say, why don't you reach out to the church? Cause they'll have people come.
[00:25:37] Speaker B: Sure.
[00:25:37] Speaker A: Right. They'll bring people around you. If you're too physically. If you can't physically get to the church because. Because of some sickness.
[00:25:45] Speaker B: Right.
[00:25:46] Speaker A: People will come to you.
[00:25:47] Speaker B: Amen.
[00:25:47] Speaker A: If you can't physically get to the church. Cause you don't have a car, somebody will come and pick you up.
[00:25:51] Speaker B: Yep. Absolutely.
[00:25:52] Speaker A: Right.
[00:25:53] Speaker B: Absolutely. So.
[00:25:53] Speaker A: So don't use any of that. Like, oh, I can't. I can't. I don't have a car. I can't get there. I don't have the. I don't have money for gas. I don't. All those are just the excuse. Somebody will come and help you.
[00:26:03] Speaker B: Right.
[00:26:03] Speaker A: Right. If you don't know somebody, send us an email. Hello. At Nomad pastor.org. We'll find somebody wherever you live, to come and help you get to church.
[00:26:12] Speaker B: Yep. Wherever you live.
[00:26:13] Speaker A: Wherever you live. Doesn't matter where you live. In any part of the world.
[00:26:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:26:17] Speaker A: Right.
That's just how it works.
[00:26:19] Speaker B: That's. Yes. And it shouldn't be. It shouldn't work any other way.
[00:26:23] Speaker A: No, it shouldn't. It shouldn't.
[00:26:25] Speaker B: You know, and so I'm unity.
[00:26:33] Speaker A: Anything else you want to add to that?
[00:26:35] Speaker B: I don't think we. I don't think we need to.
[00:26:37] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't think so.
[00:26:38] Speaker B: I think. I think we. The point that we are making, the point that we have talked about and throughout this conversation, which I've totally enjoyed again, has been being unified in the body of Christ. The strength that we gain from that and the things that we can learn from. That is so much better, so much greater, so much deeper, so much stronger than anything else that we can come in contact with.
[00:27:09] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:11] Speaker A: I think that's what we missed. That. That unity gives you growth, energizing energy and growth.
[00:27:16] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
[00:27:18] Speaker A: You know, like, we do a Friday morning group.
[00:27:21] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:27:21] Speaker A: And, man, it's. It starts my day. Amazing.
[00:27:24] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, right? Yeah.
[00:27:26] Speaker A: And, you know, but I do think sometimes maybe we overdo it. Not on our Friday morning groups, but, like, I got a Thursday morning group now. Friday morning group.
[00:27:33] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:34] Speaker A: Wednesday night group. A Thursday night group.
[00:27:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:37] Speaker A: It's like.
[00:27:38] Speaker B: Yeah, motorcycle. Yeah, exactly, exactly. You got this phone call. You got to make one national. You got this, and you got a crew. You got this. And you got to make with the whole club. Yeah, this. I got you.
[00:27:49] Speaker A: God's got a plan. You just gotta walk through it.
[00:27:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, you do. You do. So, man, I've enjoyed it.
[00:27:55] Speaker A: Me, too. Me, too. It's been amazing. So remember, we're on all the podcast platforms of. It doesn't matter what it is.
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