[00:00:08] Speaker A: Everybody. It's Rick and Rob. Welcome back to the Nomad Pastor podcast.
[00:00:11] Speaker B: That's good to see you.
[00:00:12] Speaker A: It's good to see you. You got a lot of stuff going on this weekend, man.
[00:00:15] Speaker B: I do.
[00:00:16] Speaker A: We got a lot you came early today so that you could yeah.
[00:00:19] Speaker B: We're going to scoot out here in about an hour and a half, 2 hours, something like that, and head out western other side of the city of Nashville.
[00:00:30] Speaker A: Where is it going to be at?
[00:00:31] Speaker B: In White Bluff.
[00:00:32] Speaker A: White Bluff? Okay.
[00:00:34] Speaker B: Yeah. This is our fourth annual Run to the Ridge.
[00:00:37] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:00:37] Speaker B: So Run to the Ridge is a run that the club goes on every year at the end of August. And we're in a new camp this year that we've got a long standing relationship with where we're doing some work out there at the camp for service projects and stuff. And the camp directors have been friends of Rebecca and I for 16 years, I guess. Long time. And it's a beautiful camp.
Good gracious. It's going to be hot today. Good thing the pool is going to be open, seriously.
But yeah, it's going to be a good time. We got guys on their way right now to come from other states to come hang out. And we got a very special guest speaker coming who is a very dear brother of mine that I've got to know over the years and love him to death. So it's going to be good to see everybody again.
It's been a while since the club has been together as a whole club. And we're excited. We're excited.
[00:01:52] Speaker A: That'll be good.
[00:01:54] Speaker B: Be real good.
[00:01:54] Speaker A: Now, do you want to talk about what this brother does? And maybe we could put it in the show notes for so some links for them, and then we'll get into.
[00:02:02] Speaker B: Our we can do that. We can do that. So Spark Plug has been a very good brother for a long, long time. Randy Birchfield, he's just a super great guy.
Spark plug started spark plug Ministries, and out of spark plug Ministries came wells of Salvation.
And in Pakistan, there are very few freshwater wells or freshwater sources.
Most of the water in Pakistan is murky, dirty and sold.
And families for generation after generation have acquired generational debt just to buy this dirty water.
[00:02:53] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:02:54] Speaker B: So what Spark Plug has done is he has a team in Pakistan, you can sponsor a well. I think it's like $200 to sponsor a well for a village to have clear, clean, fresh water and not have to pay water lords for it. One of the things that just literally broke my heart when I heard it, I was watching a video of an 81 year old woman who could never remember not paying for water for her family until this well was put down in her village. And it was just a beautiful story. And so through being able to provide that water, spark plug and his team are able to share the gospel.
As of last Friday, 13,000 people have access to clear, clean running water.
[00:04:05] Speaker A: Free water.
[00:04:07] Speaker B: Let's speak clear, free water. Nobody's got to pay for it.
[00:04:09] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a huge ministry. Like, we talked about it. I did a bunch of research on it. It's an amazing thing.
[00:04:16] Speaker B: It really is.
[00:04:16] Speaker A: That they do. And we've talked before about the difference between outreach and evangelism, that you got to earn the right to evangelize.
[00:04:26] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:04:27] Speaker A: And so not only is he providing this amazing, life changing, generational changing thing for these people right. He's earning the right to evangelize.
[00:04:38] Speaker B: It really is.
It's awesome how you come in with this kind of service for people at this price. And $200 puts a well down, and that's unfathomable in the United States. Well, where I grew up in southeast Missouri, we could wash a well out in about 30 minutes.
[00:05:04] Speaker A: Not here.
[00:05:05] Speaker B: No, but that'd be for irrigation purposes. It wouldn't be necessarily for artificial catfish pond, but still yet we could get good, clean water fairly cheap.
Being in this area now for the majority of my life, and well have to be does it have to be 100ft? I think it's 100ft deep or 110, something like that, for there to be clear water with no polluted runoff, waste or anything like that.
A well here in middle Tennessee, it'll run you about $1,000 per 10ft.
So to be able to put in a clear one and running water well for $200 is fantastic. So, folks, hit spark plug. Ministries up. Wells of salvation.
[00:06:13] Speaker A: Yeah. And we'll put all that stuff in our show notes, right. So if you're listening, you can go do your own research. Right?
[00:06:19] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:06:21] Speaker A: We're not advocating for, like it's a great ministry.
[00:06:23] Speaker B: It really is.
[00:06:24] Speaker A: We get nothing from it.
And anybody who's listened to this for a long time knows that we don't advertise nothing.
Before we jump in.
We've been doing it together for a little while, but the actual show, the Nomad pastor podcast, this is episode 108.
[00:06:44] Speaker B: Really?
[00:06:47] Speaker A: We've been doing it yeah.
We miss a couple of weeks here.
[00:06:50] Speaker B: And there every now and again, but.
[00:06:52] Speaker A: Still, 108 episodes in total since it's praise God. Yeah.
[00:06:57] Speaker B: That's awesome.
[00:06:58] Speaker A: And in that 108 episodes, we take no money.
[00:07:00] Speaker B: Never.
[00:07:01] Speaker A: We're here because this is what God wants us to do.
[00:07:04] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:07:05] Speaker A: All right, today's parable is the parable of the persistent widow, and it's in Luke 18. Do you want to read it?
[00:07:13] Speaker B: Yeah, let's read it from the extra special version.
[00:07:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:07:17] Speaker B: And he told them a parable to effect that they ought to always pray and not lose heart. He said, in a certain city, there was a judge who neither feared God nor respected man, and there was a widow in that city who kept coming to him saying, give me justice against my adversary. For a while, he refused, but afterward he said to himself, though I neither fear God nor respect man, yet because this widow keeps bothering me, I will give her justice so that she will not beat me down by her continual coming. And the Lord said, hear what the unrighteous judge says. And will not God give justice to his elect who cry to him day and night?
Will he delay long over them? I tell you, he will give justice to them speedily. Nevertheless, when the Son of man comes, will he find faith on earth?
[00:08:16] Speaker A: So how do we break it down?
[00:08:20] Speaker B: So verse one says, and he told them a parable here we go to effect that they ought always to pray and not lose heart.
[00:08:30] Speaker A: Yes.
Because he's saying, it's going to be hard times. It's coming, it's coming. Don't lose heart.
[00:08:39] Speaker B: Right.
[00:08:40] Speaker A: Keep praying.
[00:08:42] Speaker B: Stay the course.
[00:08:43] Speaker A: Stay the course. Don't give up.
[00:08:44] Speaker B: It reminds me of that Winston Churchill speech that he gave to troops.
[00:08:52] Speaker A: I don't think I know it.
[00:08:53] Speaker B: In the battlefield.
It's easy to remember once you hear it.
[00:08:57] Speaker A: You'll never forget, I'm sure.
[00:08:59] Speaker B: So he's sitting in a chair, leaned on his cane, and he rested his chin on the back of his hands, and he said, Never and ever give up as a speech.
[00:09:17] Speaker A: That was it. That's a great speech.
[00:09:22] Speaker B: Here is war torn soldiers on the battlefield somewhere in the European theater, and they're ragged, they're tired, they're beat down, they're wounded.
They are what we know of today as suffering from PTSD. They called them battle fatigued in World War II. And here's this guy with this big, long, what we now know today as a Churchill style that's right.
Puts his hands on top of his cane and rests his chin on it and says, Never ever give up.
And Jesus is telling the apostles, only's heart, keep praying, don't give up, don't stop.
[00:10:19] Speaker A: I think he also is saying is, you're going to encounter people right.
You're going to encounter people that are not going to listen, that are not going to agree, that are not going to help you even though they can.
[00:10:33] Speaker B: Yeah, right. Right.
[00:10:35] Speaker A: This judge had the power to help.
[00:10:39] Speaker B: Yes. But here's the trick with this, and this is what I was going to say. He neither feared God nor respected man.
[00:10:46] Speaker A: Right.
[00:10:47] Speaker B: Why is this dude a judge? I don't know about that.
[00:10:52] Speaker A: I don't know about that. But we throughout our lives encounter people that do not fear God and that do not respect do not respect man. Right. That's as relevant today as it was when this was written.
[00:11:05] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:11:06] Speaker A: Right.
[00:11:07] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:11:07] Speaker A: And he's saying, just stay the course, keep going.
It's going to turn.
We can spin it either, any way that we want, that this judge decided, I'm tired of dealing with this, so I'm going to give you what you want. Or maybe that's God's plan, right. How faithful are you going to be?
Right. Are you going to continue in the struggle this widow could have given up.
But was God saying, let me see how faithful you gonna be?
I don't know the answer to that.
[00:11:53] Speaker B: I don't know the answer to that.
[00:11:54] Speaker A: I don't either.
[00:11:54] Speaker B: And so I'm not gonna speculate.
[00:11:56] Speaker A: I'm not either. I'm just asking questions.
[00:11:57] Speaker B: So here's my thought process on it.
I look back at Moses in front of Pharaoh.
Moses like, let my people go, let my people go. And Pharaoh's like, okay, and then scripture says God hardened his heart.
Right. And the plagues came.
And every single plague that God sent into Egypt had something to do with one of the gods that they worshipped at the time.
[00:12:34] Speaker A: That's right.
[00:12:34] Speaker B: Right.
[00:12:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:12:35] Speaker B: So in the whole scheme of what Moses is doing in front of Pharaoh, god is showing the Egyptians and Pharaoh, I'm bigger, I'm better, faster and stronger than anything you got.
My people are going to worship me.
[00:13:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:13:02] Speaker B: Right.
[00:13:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:13:03] Speaker B: Why don't you come be part of my people?
[00:13:05] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:13:07] Speaker B: At the same time, here is a widow in this parable that's looking for the justice.
And the parable goes on to say, there was a judge that neither feared God nor respected man.
[00:13:24] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:13:25] Speaker B: So anything that this widow does to appeal to the judge is falling on deaf ears. Yes, I'm praying for you. And what's that going to do for me?
[00:13:38] Speaker A: Yeah. That means nothing.
[00:13:39] Speaker B: Right.
[00:13:40] Speaker A: I'm believing that.
[00:13:42] Speaker B: I'm coming to you. Humbly, I don't care.
I don't care what you're doing.
Right.
None of the approaches that we, hmm, let me try this or let me try this angle or let me try that worked. It was persistence in prayer.
[00:14:06] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:06] Speaker B: So when Moses is in front of this Pharaoh and all of these things, they're getting ready to go and God hardens his hearts and Pharaoh goes, oh wait, oh come back. Never mind, changed my mind.
Right, right.
[00:14:22] Speaker A: He did.
[00:14:23] Speaker B: Several times, right. Like six times, seven times.
A couple of times he just said no.
[00:14:29] Speaker A: That's right.
[00:14:30] Speaker B: But anyway, so my point is here's, Moses going through this and the point of the story was god is bigger than the boogeyman.
Right. Anything that the Egyptians could come up with, God was bigger.
He faced every single God that they had and made them look like schmucks. Right. The same thing is going on here. This widow in this parable is trying to get justice for whatever.
I don't even think it says yeah, it doesn't say what it was, but anyway, the judge that she is trying to appeal to thinks that he is the cat's meow and the bee's knees at the same time because he doesn't fear God and he doesn't respect any man. So his level of self worth from himself is obviously something for him to withhold behold.
[00:15:35] Speaker A: Yeah, I think it is.
[00:15:35] Speaker B: Right.
[00:15:36] Speaker A: I think there's an interesting part of this, and it's kind of like the last line. It says, nevertheless, when the son of man comes, will he find faith on Earth?
Because the story he's telling is about this widow having faith that she's going to get justice.
[00:15:53] Speaker B: Justice.
[00:15:55] Speaker A: Right. Because it says, right, give me justice against my adversary. But he refused, so that's what she's trying to do. Right. She keeps bothering him so that she can get justice.
[00:16:10] Speaker B: Right.
[00:16:10] Speaker A: And so when he asks, will he find faith, he's saying, Are you going to keep the course?
The widow never stopped the course.
[00:16:20] Speaker B: Right.
[00:16:21] Speaker A: She knew what she had to do. Well, we know what we have to do. Right. We know every day I got to get up and I got to spend time with God.
[00:16:29] Speaker B: Sure.
[00:16:29] Speaker A: Right. I got to have a conversation.
It is praying. But to me, I'm having a conversation with God.
It's not like, oh, I got to get down on my knees and I got to pray and I got to this and that. Right. No prayer is, hey, Lord, I need you right now. Just give me a little strength.
[00:16:49] Speaker B: Yeah, right, right.
[00:16:51] Speaker A: Hey, dad. What's up? Right. Well, I'm just saying I have yeah.
[00:16:57] Speaker B: I know what you're saying.
[00:16:59] Speaker A: I'll have a conversation with God. I don't have to be in some right.
[00:17:04] Speaker B: But now, in the same vein, by the same token, that conversation with God is still reverent.
[00:17:15] Speaker A: I think it is, absolutely.
[00:17:17] Speaker B: And I still humbly come before the.
[00:17:20] Speaker A: Throne of God every time, but at.
[00:17:22] Speaker B: The same time but I can humbly.
[00:17:24] Speaker A: Come on my motorcycle.
[00:17:25] Speaker B: Right. And that's where I've at my truck. Right. That's where I'm going when I'm sitting.
[00:17:29] Speaker A: At my desk at work, I can humbly come always, right.
[00:17:34] Speaker B: Everywhere at any time, and reverently come. Yeah, right.
[00:17:42] Speaker A: So when he says, when the Son of man comes, will he find faith on Earth? That's what he's looking for.
Right. That no matter how hard it gets, no matter how many obstacles come in my way, that I have faith, that I'm persistent in my relationship with God.
[00:17:58] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:17:59] Speaker A: Right. That's what this parable to me is like. That's what it's all about, that you got to be persistent in your relationship with God. It's not just I said this prayer.
[00:18:10] Speaker B: It's never about what you said in the prayer.
[00:18:14] Speaker A: I think a lot of people disagree.
[00:18:16] Speaker B: With that and think otherwise.
[00:18:18] Speaker A: Believe. Well, I said the sinner's prayer.
[00:18:22] Speaker B: Show me evidence.
[00:18:23] Speaker A: Yeah, right.
[00:18:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:27] Speaker A: I don't know.
[00:18:30] Speaker B: I completely understand what you're saying. I completely agree with what you're saying.
So let me ask you this.
[00:18:40] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:18:41] Speaker B: Why is it that people will not remain persistent in keeping the course? Why do you think?
[00:18:51] Speaker A: Well, because I believe that people expect the answer or solution to be the.
[00:19:00] Speaker B: Way they want it to be or a microwave solution.
[00:19:03] Speaker A: Well, it could be a microwave solution, but the reason I say the way they want it right. Is I could pray for it to be better weather. Right.
And better weather doesn't come today.
But God had a plan, right. And maybe his plan was that it had to be hot today so that it's something for the crops or the this or the that, right. Or the animals needed this. Right. There's all these caveats that I don't think people recognize. Right. Or if I say, God, I need patience. Well.
[00:19:45] Speaker B: You know how many people have told me, don't ever pay for patient for patience?
[00:19:49] Speaker A: I'm not saying I did right.
As an example.
[00:19:53] Speaker B: Right, yeah.
[00:19:53] Speaker A: But patience may come in a form that I don't want, but it's what God knows is the right thing.
[00:20:01] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:20:02] Speaker A: And so, because it didn't come in the way I want it, I don't think God answered it because I don't recognize that God answered because I never saw the blessing, because I was looking for it a very specific way through.
[00:20:16] Speaker B: Instead of tunnel vision, it's straw vision. Yeah, I get what you're saying, because I have someone that I know very well who is teetering on that fence of one day he believes that there is a God and that Jesus is the only way to salvation. And why are people not flocking to know more about the eternal life that he can give and the next day there is no is? If God was loving, why would he allow slaves?
Why would he allow Joseph to be sold into a slave?
[00:21:09] Speaker A: How do you answer that?
[00:21:10] Speaker B: Well.
[00:21:13] Speaker A: I know it's not this topic.
[00:21:14] Speaker B: But I just want to know how do I answer that? How God does that, or why God would do that? Because look at the whole story, not just the slavery part of it. Look at how Joseph's brothers and father came to be restored in the land of Egypt because Joseph was there during the famine and saved a at. I look at the whole picture of what goes on in the story of Joseph with potiphar's wife and being put in prison unjustly.
[00:22:01] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't know, maybe I answered different than some people would, but I think we fail to realize when somebody's like, well, why did God allow slavery and use Joseph that example, I say, well, God didn't.
Right. Sin allowed slavery.
[00:22:23] Speaker B: Right.
[00:22:24] Speaker A: But God used that slavery.
He used that sin for good. And he put Joseph in a place even though he was sold into slavery by his brothers because of the sin of the world.
[00:22:37] Speaker B: Right.
[00:22:38] Speaker A: Not because of God.
[00:22:39] Speaker B: Well, the whole thing boiled down to jealousy of what Joseph was. Right.
[00:22:43] Speaker A: The sin of the world.
[00:22:44] Speaker B: The sin of the world. Right. So that's one of those things that we overlook of.
So what? I'm jealous that you got a new car.
Wait a minute, hold on just a minute. This is the end result of what jealousy does.
[00:23:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:23:03] Speaker B: So you have these scriptural references of we talked earlier in a podcast of the difference in evil and righteous. Yeah, right. Last week last week's podcast we asked the question of, well, how do you define I'm a good guy? What makes me evil? We are the opposite of righteous.
[00:23:26] Speaker A: That's right.
[00:23:28] Speaker B: So you get back to are you going to stay persistent in what the calling in your life is or what you know to be right because of that righteous relationship with Christ that you want to have or are? You just going to be not only am I angry at God, but there is no God because he didn't answer my prayer the way that I think that it should have been answered or that it should have been answered at all.
[00:24:00] Speaker A: Yeah. Let me be honest with you. I've had a lot of prayers that weren't answered the way I wanted them to be.
[00:24:05] Speaker B: Praise God.
Right.
[00:24:09] Speaker A: Praise God that they weren't exactly praise God that they weren't answered the way absolutely.
Yeah. I never thought about this, and it's still not part of this topic, but I had somebody say one time that they will never pray for somebody when somebody says, hey, will you pray for me? It's an unspoken request.
And I had somebody say that they would never pray for somebody like that, and I didn't understand. I'm like, what do you mean? He said, I don't know if their request is good or evil.
[00:24:44] Speaker B: I've never thought about that.
[00:24:49] Speaker A: I did not either.
[00:24:57] Speaker B: Absolutely. Now, let me preface this a little bit because I'm kind of against the unspoken prayer request anyway.
[00:25:05] Speaker A: Well, I was kind of on the fence, like, why can't you just tell if you want me to pray for you, be specific, tell me what you need. I can go to God specifically and say, this is what you need, because.
[00:25:17] Speaker B: Galatians six two says, bear one another's burdens. Right?
[00:25:19] Speaker A: That's right.
[00:25:20] Speaker B: So that's where I'm going with it.
[00:25:23] Speaker A: But this kind of added a mic drop moment to it. Like, what if they're requesting something evil.
[00:25:29] Speaker B: That'S not just a mic drop, that's a mic drop on an explosion.
[00:25:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:36] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:25:36] Speaker A: And so now, like I see on Facebook, somebody be like, pray for me, unspoken request. I'm like, I don't think I can be that.
[00:25:47] Speaker B: Wow.
Oh, my goodness.
[00:25:52] Speaker A: I know. I'm sorry.
[00:25:53] Speaker B: No, I'm driving at the white or riding at the white bluff the whole time going, unspoken prayer request. Unspoken prayer request. No.
[00:26:01] Speaker A: Yeah, it sucks, right? All right. So I think all of that still goes back to being faithful.
[00:26:09] Speaker B: It does.
[00:26:10] Speaker A: We got to be faithful. At the end of the day, it's all about being faithful.
[00:26:15] Speaker B: It has to be right.
[00:26:17] Speaker A: Continuing to walk through the doors regardless of how hard it right.
[00:26:25] Speaker B: Does that make you perfect, Rick?
[00:26:27] Speaker A: Absolutely not.
[00:26:29] Speaker B: To remain faithful.
[00:26:31] Speaker A: Look, I have plenty of days that I question, am I really?
[00:26:38] Speaker B: I'm with you.
[00:26:39] Speaker A: And I say that because I think everybody's got to understand, like, look, I'm a pastor. You're a pastor. Right.
We've both preached numerous times.
We do ministry, work together, and we are leaders of ministries, and I still have my days.
[00:26:59] Speaker B: Oh, absolutely.
[00:27:00] Speaker A: Right. I still have my days that I'm like, what? Maybe maybe this isn't what I'm supposed to be doing. That doesn't mean I don't believe in God.
[00:27:10] Speaker B: Exactly right.
[00:27:11] Speaker A: Let me clarify.
[00:27:11] Speaker B: Yeah. That doesn't question salvation.
[00:27:13] Speaker A: That doesn't mean that I don't know that Christ is my Lord and Savior. That doesn't change. But my faith in what I'm doing at this moment is it the right thing. And I question a lot. And the only way that I can overcome that question is through the relationship I have with God, right. Through prayer, through that humble conversation, that respectful, humble, reverent relationship, lord, just guide me the right way.
[00:27:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
And we find a lot of times when we ask for that guidance that helps us in our persistence in prayer and in faith.
[00:28:01] Speaker A: Yeah. Even when I don't like his answer.
[00:28:03] Speaker B: Well, exactly.
[00:28:05] Speaker A: Right. Because he's not just telling me what I want to hear.
[00:28:07] Speaker B: Right. Because his ways are not mine and his thoughts are not mine.
[00:28:10] Speaker A: Not even close.
[00:28:11] Speaker B: No.
[00:28:12] Speaker A: So I say that to say, no, I'm not perfect. I am far from perfect.
[00:28:17] Speaker B: Right.
[00:28:18] Speaker A: And I will never be perfect.
[00:28:20] Speaker B: True.
[00:28:21] Speaker A: All I can do we've said this throughout however many shows we've done together.
1% better than yesterday I am today. 1% better than I was yesterday.
[00:28:32] Speaker B: Exactly. That's how we measure growth.
[00:28:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:28:36] Speaker B: So I think about all of the people that want to jab and say, you hypocritical Christian. That's exactly the reason. That because wait a minute. I've never said there was perfection in my life.
[00:28:58] Speaker A: That's right. But the problem is there are a lot of I don't know the number, but there are a percentage of very hypocritical Christians.
[00:29:09] Speaker B: There are. Right. There really are.
[00:29:11] Speaker A: You and I have both lived through that.
[00:29:12] Speaker B: We have walked through it.
[00:29:14] Speaker A: Where? Oh, my Lord. You do that, you'll never go to heaven.
[00:29:18] Speaker B: Right.
[00:29:18] Speaker A: You're going to Hell, for sure.
[00:29:20] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:29:21] Speaker A: But it goes back to that judging somebody's salvation. I don't know if we talked about this one or last one. Right.
But it is not our job.
[00:29:30] Speaker B: It's not.
[00:29:31] Speaker A: We cannot no.
[00:29:32] Speaker B: Because we don't see the heart of man.
Well, we see a mirror of that, but we don't know exactly what's in a person's heart.
[00:29:44] Speaker A: Yeah. Here's what I would say to that, too. Anybody who knew me 20 years ago that said, you're going to hell, you're a sinner, didn't know God's plan and didn't care about God's plan.
Everything that has happened in my life to get me where I am today, god had a plan. His hand was in every one of.
[00:30:05] Speaker B: Them, every single thing.
[00:30:06] Speaker A: And when I made a decision this is my belief when I made a decision that was worldly, god knew I was going to do it and used it to bring me closer to Him.
[00:30:19] Speaker B: To Him.
[00:30:21] Speaker A: He could have easily said, and this is conversations I have with people that are like unbelievers or atheists or they're just trying to fight for no reason because they want to fight about Christ and God.
He could have easily in our lives said, you're going to do it this way and I don't care how you feel.
But then we would have just been slaves.
[00:30:44] Speaker B: True.
[00:30:44] Speaker A: Right. And that whole why does God allow slavery conversation, right? Well, he gave you a choice.
He didn't cause slavery. He gave men a choice. And if you choose to sin, this is what happens.
[00:31:03] Speaker B: Exactly.
Right.
[00:31:05] Speaker A: So he's saying to everybody else, be faithful.
Know that I am God. Right?
[00:31:11] Speaker B: Right.
[00:31:13] Speaker A: Know that I am God.
[00:31:16] Speaker B: I love it. I love it.
[00:31:20] Speaker A: It's been a good one.
[00:31:21] Speaker B: It has been a very good one.
When we talked about doing parables, I really look forward to that.
I thought, man, that's a great topic to stay on for a while. But it's also generated some good conversation, not just between us, but people have come up to me and to you that's right. And said, hey, man, I was listening to your podcast the other day and I had a question about this.
[00:31:51] Speaker A: That's right. I get them all the time. Yeah, I mean, feel free to email us at
[email protected].
[00:31:58] Speaker B: Right. But if you see us on the.
[00:32:00] Speaker A: Street, hit us up.
[00:32:01] Speaker B: Yeah. Stop us.
Don't knock us off the motorcycle, but get our attention.
[00:32:07] Speaker A: That's right.
[00:32:09] Speaker B: And a lot of people have said, hey, I was listening and I heard this and I want to clarify, or I want more information about it, or what do you think about XYZ or ABC?
I love those conversations, and I will.
[00:32:26] Speaker A: Start by saying I love them as well. But look, I didn't go to the seminary.
[00:32:32] Speaker B: I didn't either.
[00:32:33] Speaker A: Right.
What we're talking about is how we feel and what we have learned and what we have read.
[00:32:38] Speaker B: Right.
[00:32:38] Speaker A: Does that make it right? No. The only one who's right is God.
[00:32:41] Speaker B: God. But we are willing to find it out.
[00:32:43] Speaker A: That's right.
I would also say don't take our word for it.
[00:32:48] Speaker B: Yeah. Go search it in Scripture.
[00:32:52] Speaker A: And frankly, if any pastor or church leader doesn't tell you to go do your own research, there's a problem.
[00:33:03] Speaker B: There's a big problem.
[00:33:05] Speaker A: Right.
[00:33:05] Speaker B: You're in a cult.
[00:33:06] Speaker A: Go somewhere else.
Yeah, it's been a good one. I appreciate it very much.
[00:33:12] Speaker B: I really appreciate it. So, hey, folks, don't forget, shoot us an email at
[email protected] for any questions or if you have a request that you want to hear us do on the show.
[00:33:25] Speaker A: Yeah, we've taken topics.
[00:33:26] Speaker B: We have taken topics.
[00:33:28] Speaker A: If there's a topic you want yeah, hit us up. Yeah. One thing I would love to do, maybe once we're kind of done with these parables things, maybe just pick a book of the Bible.
[00:33:39] Speaker B: Yeah, that'd be cool.
[00:33:40] Speaker A: And just go through chapter by chapter and talk about it, right?
[00:33:43] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:33:44] Speaker A: Teach people.
[00:33:45] Speaker B: Yeah, that'd be great.
Hey, y'all, we're on every single podcast platform and on YouTube.
[00:33:52] Speaker A: That's right.
[00:33:52] Speaker B: If you want to see our ugly mugs, check us out there. And we thank y'all for joining us. And always remember to love God and love people.
