[00:00:09] Speaker A: Everybody, it's Rick and Rob. Welcome back to the Nomad pastor podcast.
[00:00:12] Speaker B: It's been a minute.
[00:00:14] Speaker A: It has been.
[00:00:14] Speaker B: Well, I mean, we had some things that popped up and, you know, both of us out of town or sick or something.
[00:00:21] Speaker A: It was crazy.
[00:00:22] Speaker B: It was nuts. And so it's good to be back.
[00:00:25] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm getting a little feedback right here. I wonder if it's just this monitor that just turned off.
I'll know here in a minute.
[00:00:35] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll figure it out.
[00:00:36] Speaker A: It's all right. We got audio.
[00:00:38] Speaker B: If we got nothing, you know what? It's all good. It works usually most of the time. Most of the time.
[00:00:45] Speaker A: All right. So it has been a while. We've been traveling for work and weather and just everything that's going on in life.
[00:00:51] Speaker B: Crazy. Yeah, it has been crazy.
[00:00:53] Speaker A: So how have you been, man? I've been good. It's just work has been extremely stressful this time of year.
[00:01:03] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:01:04] Speaker A: It's audit time for publicly traded companies.
[00:01:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:01:10] Speaker A: You just kind of accept it and deal with it.
[00:01:13] Speaker B: So we've had some issues going on at work this week, too. We had forgot a water main leak out in the parking lot and haven't had any water in the building.
So that ends up creating several different issues. I mean, you can't even go to the bathroom in the building.
[00:01:31] Speaker A: Right.
[00:01:31] Speaker B: So I come in in the mornings this week, knock a few things out, and then I've been going back home and working from home.
[00:01:40] Speaker A: Well, how do they do that with patients?
[00:01:42] Speaker B: Well, luckily, my building doesn't have any patients anymore.
[00:01:46] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:01:48] Speaker B: I'm in another building off the main campus for.
[00:01:54] Speaker A: I was going to say.
[00:01:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
So it created even some issues with me.
[00:02:01] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:02:02] Speaker B: Because I drink a lot of water.
[00:02:04] Speaker A: Well, I mean, when you got to, like, let's just say it, when you get a little bit older and you do drink the amount of water that.
[00:02:13] Speaker B: You'Re supposed to drink, you may have.
[00:02:16] Speaker A: To go to the bathroom five or.
[00:02:18] Speaker B: Six times a day at least.
[00:02:20] Speaker A: Right.
[00:02:21] Speaker B: I usually get about three times before lunchtime.
[00:02:24] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:02:26] Speaker B: Of course, you have 16 to 18oz of coffee on the way to work.
[00:02:32] Speaker A: That's right.
[00:02:32] Speaker B: And then you have a couple of. I drink from a circle water bottle. It's a 30 ounce bottle.
[00:02:39] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:02:39] Speaker B: And I use the flavor cartridges just to give me a little more zest in my life.
[00:02:45] Speaker A: Yeah.
I have the squirt Koolaid.
[00:02:48] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:02:49] Speaker A: It's zero sugar, but at least it tastes like Koolaid. Right. And so I'll do the same thing. Right. I have a 30 ounce Stanley cup.
[00:02:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
You drink half of the first water bottle, and you're like, I got to go.
[00:03:05] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:03:06] Speaker B: And that's normally by about 830.
[00:03:08] Speaker A: Yeah. It's crazy.
[00:03:09] Speaker B: And so when you can't do that, it creates all kinds of havoc.
They got it turned back on last night, and we're able to actually have water in the building, which it helps out because I eat oatmeal for breakfast in the morning.
[00:03:26] Speaker A: Okay.
Fiber comes through.
[00:03:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
So you got to have water to make oatmeal. I have a little single cup coffee maker.
[00:03:36] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:03:37] Speaker B: And I make my oatmeal with that because I drink my coffee on the way in.
[00:03:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:03:43] Speaker B: Sometimes in the afternoon, I have to make another cup of coffee, though, because I'm getting older.
[00:03:47] Speaker A: I do have an espresso in my office.
[00:03:51] Speaker B: Really?
[00:03:52] Speaker A: Yeah. At work now, they have pot coffee and people brew it, but I want something a little bit fancier.
[00:03:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:03:58] Speaker A: I'm a coffee snob.
[00:04:00] Speaker B: I have a brother that has a pretty nice espresso maker in his house.
[00:04:07] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:04:07] Speaker B: And we had a surprise birthday party for him, and he's like, make a coffee.
[00:04:13] Speaker A: Have you ever seen my coffee machine here?
[00:04:15] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:04:16] Speaker A: Because it's a super automatic espresso machine.
[00:04:18] Speaker B: Yeah, I have seen it. That's pretty fancy. That's pretty fancy.
[00:04:22] Speaker A: Like I said, I'm a coffee snob.
[00:04:24] Speaker B: He was telling me, of course, you pack the.
And get it all ready in the little hand thing that you put up there. And he's like, this is a low to mid level grade. Like, how much was that thing? He said it was like $600.
[00:04:42] Speaker A: That's about what ours was for, low to mid grade.
[00:04:44] Speaker B: He goes, he said, you can get fan. He said, I've seen them. There were, like 15 grand in somebody's house.
[00:04:49] Speaker A: Right. Never in mind.
[00:04:51] Speaker B: But I was like, why?
[00:04:53] Speaker A: I mean, I love coffee, but I don't know that I love it that much.
[00:04:55] Speaker B: I don't either.
[00:04:56] Speaker A: Anyway.
[00:04:57] Speaker B: But getting back to this water thing.
[00:04:59] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, I mean, it kind of goes hand in hand with what we want to talk about.
[00:05:03] Speaker B: Right. And that's kind of the way I was going to intro, because I've noticed things this week with not drinking as much water as I normally do.
[00:05:11] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:05:12] Speaker B: My skin is a little bit drier.
It's easier for me to get congested at night, not just because of pollen beginning. Because we're in the beginning stages of pollen.
[00:05:25] Speaker A: It's coming. Right.
[00:05:26] Speaker B: So it's zertech season is what I call it.
[00:05:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:05:29] Speaker B: But I notice different things going on because I'm not taking care of myself.
And it's not because I'm not doing it on purpose. It's out of necessity.
[00:05:43] Speaker A: But we get wrapped up in our.
[00:05:45] Speaker B: Right.
[00:05:46] Speaker A: And so, you know, the thing we want to talk about is your body. Your body is a temple, right? Scripture tells us.
And it's so easy. Like, Linda and I just went to Dallas. We were there for three days.
That's where my dentist is. As crazy as that probably sound.
[00:06:04] Speaker B: That's where my son lives. He lives in know.
[00:06:06] Speaker A: If anybody decides they want to know why my dentist is in Dallas and I live in Nashville, you can email us at hello at home and I will tell you, selfish plug for if you're going know. So we go once a year. I do my annual checkup there.
One of Linda's really good friends lives there and her daughter. And so we always go for an extended weekend.
And I noticed when I'm there, or generally when I travel, I feel like I don't take care of myself the way I do when I'm at home, right.
I'm still eating gluten free. I'm still not doing the stuff that I shouldn't do. But I know I'm not drinking enough water because I'm like, what if I'm someplace and I have to go to the bathroom, right.
Or I take fiber and all kinds of different supplements. Sure. I may not be wanting to take that today, right.
[00:07:05] Speaker B: Because there ain't nothing like home court advantage.
[00:07:07] Speaker A: That's right.
I get that when the fiber kicks in.
[00:07:11] Speaker B: That's right.
[00:07:12] Speaker A: But I think there's a lot more to it.
[00:07:15] Speaker B: There is.
[00:07:15] Speaker A: Right. When we talk about your body as a temple.
[00:07:17] Speaker B: Yeah, there is. And there's a lot of different facets that we overlook when we don't take care of ourselves.
Now, I'm not a gym rat anymore.
[00:07:28] Speaker A: Right.
[00:07:30] Speaker B: Obviously.
[00:07:31] Speaker A: I mean, look at me. I'm not either.
[00:07:33] Speaker B: So there was a time in my life where I was faithful to go to the gym every single day.
And as I got older and being in the gym and things started popping and I tore an ab muscle one time. How do you tear an ab muscle? I don't know.
[00:07:52] Speaker A: I've tried to do the gym stuff. I have, right? I've tried to do it a ton. I even recently, last year, we bought a membership to the Jimmy Floyd. Right.
I try.
[00:08:02] Speaker B: Right.
[00:08:03] Speaker A: But I'm not a gym rat. Right. I think part of the problem for me is I grew up playing sports, right?
[00:08:08] Speaker B: Yeah, me too.
[00:08:08] Speaker A: Baseball, football. We played it. And then I was wrestling, and so you just, like, I could eat whatever I wanted because I was right.
[00:08:16] Speaker B: Metabolism was huge, right out of the roof.
[00:08:20] Speaker A: I got older, my head got fat.
[00:08:27] Speaker B: Let's talk about that for just a minute, and then we're going to segue into scripture here in just a minute. But as we get older, the things that we're told as men, this is going to change. Your testosterone levels drop.
You're going to notice hair growing in your ears, and it's okay to pick that out. It is. Tweeze it, really? I tweeze it Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.
So there's all these different things that we're looking at as men growing older, but we forget all these things that we need to be taken care of for our bodies.
For those that know or don't know. I work for University medical center, and one of the things that we have every year is this thing called go for the a. It's kind of a wellness driven thing for us to look at what our track record is of the way that we're keeping track of taking care of our bodies. What are you putting into your body? What are you asking your body to do? Are you just sitting all day long? Are you getting up and getting some exercise? What do you do?
And all of that goes in together with what today's scripture that we're going to kind of focus on. All of it plays in together with as we age, as we get up in years. And the way that we take care of ourselves or don't take care of ourselves can affect what we do in ministry, especially in our.
I'm. Next Thursday, I'll be heading down to Daytona on a. You know, that's a long ride.
[00:10:20] Speaker A: That's right.
[00:10:21] Speaker B: And being able to stay focused while I'm on that long ride is important so that I can stay safe and come back to my wife in one piece.
[00:10:31] Speaker A: That's right.
[00:10:32] Speaker B: So you have the scripture, right?
[00:10:35] Speaker A: I do.
[00:10:36] Speaker B: Go ahead and read the scripture and then let's talk about this.
[00:10:38] Speaker A: So do you want me to start at 19 or 18?
[00:10:41] Speaker B: Start at.
[00:10:43] Speaker A: Let's just start at 19.
[00:10:44] Speaker B: Start at 19, and we'll go back to 18 in a minute.
[00:10:47] Speaker A: All right, so this is one corinthians, chapter six, verses 19 and 20 says, do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have received from God?
You are not your own.
You were bought at a price. Therefore, honor God with your bodies.
[00:11:11] Speaker B: That's 19 and 2019 and 20 for you've been bought with a price, therefore honor my version. Of course. I'm reading out of the NSAB NASB.
[00:11:21] Speaker A: Today, and this is the Niv.
[00:11:22] Speaker B: Niv. My version says, for you've been bought with a price, therefore glorify God in your body.
[00:11:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:29] Speaker B: Now, we have references in scripture where Paul was an athlete because he talks about if I train to box and just beat the air, what good am I doing?
[00:11:40] Speaker A: That's right.
[00:11:41] Speaker B: And he talks about running to win the know athletes and things like that.
[00:11:46] Speaker A: There's a lot of scriptural reference about athletes.
[00:11:48] Speaker B: Right. There's a lot of scriptural reference about the way that we take care of our body.
[00:11:52] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:11:56] Speaker B: You and I both have tattoos.
[00:11:59] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:12:00] Speaker B: We both have piercings.
[00:12:01] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:12:03] Speaker B: It has been said to me, and I'm sure to you as well, that tattoos and piercings are defiling your body more than once. I'm not getting into that today. That's good because that's a whole nother podcast. But what I am going to say is the way that we take care of our bodies and this week at work, being tough to take care of my body, the way that I'm used to being able to take care of my body with the amount of water that I take in and the exercise that I'm able to get because of working from home or something like that, has been different, and I've noticed those effects. Right. So the effects that we put our bodies through affects our minds at the same time, and in the end result affects the ministry that we're able to do for God.
[00:12:50] Speaker A: Yeah, I agree with that. I agree with that. Wholeheartedly. Think something people overlook. Right. I think that you may not recognize it, but when I'm active, not physically, but when I'm active spiritually.
Right.
My desire to take care of myself is greater.
[00:13:22] Speaker B: That's exactly right. Yeah.
[00:13:23] Speaker A: Right. Like, I have this relationship with God, and I desire to do things better. Now, look, I know that, look, I'm overweight.
[00:13:33] Speaker B: I am, too.
[00:13:34] Speaker A: I get it.
[00:13:35] Speaker B: Right.
[00:13:37] Speaker A: But I'm trying to be better.
[00:13:39] Speaker B: Right.
[00:13:41] Speaker A: But I'm going to the doctor. When I'm supposed to go to the doctor, I'm having. Doing the things like I do testosterone. I do like the things the doctor tells me to do. Right.
But I think it's important to acknowledge or recognize that it's easy to get off the path if you don't follow the right path. I don't know a better way to say that.
[00:14:03] Speaker B: Well, there's really not another way to say that. There's really not. So you look at verse 19. Do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own?
The call that we have on our lives to go and make disciples, right.
Doesn't allow us to sit idly by.
[00:14:36] Speaker A: Right.
[00:14:36] Speaker B: And if we don't take care of our bodies, if we don't take the medications we're supposed to take, right. If we don't take the right amount of electrolytes and water and things like that into our bodies, if we don't eat the right foods, we are dishonouring God.
Now, let me back up a little bit when I say that.
When I say we're dishonouring God by not taking care of our bodies, I'm not saying you can't have a candy bar, right? I had a kit kat this morning.
[00:15:15] Speaker A: Right.
[00:15:17] Speaker B: But the thing is, if I'm going to abuse those things, if I'm not going to take care of my body so that I can do the ministry that God's called me to, am I stretching spiritual limits here or spiritual grace?
[00:15:34] Speaker A: Maybe?
I don't know that it's for me to decide, right.
[00:15:39] Speaker B: I think it's kind of a personal conviction.
[00:15:43] Speaker A: I feel like if you put those things above God, you are absolutely right.
[00:15:48] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[00:15:49] Speaker A: You're idolizing them above God and above the Holy Spirit. Right.
[00:15:53] Speaker B: Same thing as being a gym rat.
[00:15:55] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:15:55] Speaker B: Right. If you're putting the way your body looks above your service to God or above your relationship with God.
[00:16:05] Speaker A: Yeah. Look, and I recognize this is probably one of the reasons I hate social media, is that I see people posting pictures of them, like, oh, look at my muscle. Right?
[00:16:15] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:15] Speaker A: Good for you. Praise God that you're willing to do that.
[00:16:18] Speaker B: Sure.
[00:16:18] Speaker A: But are you idolizing it? Are you saying to the world, like, look at me, and that's an idol to you? That's what fuels you is the recognition.
Right?
[00:16:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
At lunch, I end up watching some YouTube videos at lunch. Sorry, boss. But anyway, yesterday I got caught up on a couple of videos about snake handling in churches, right? And I was like, why are they so enthralled with this? They go back to the scripture in mark 16, you'll pick up serpents.
[00:16:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:00] Speaker B: Why do you want to pick up something that can kill you? Right.
And I got to thinking about it, and I thought, you know what these people are maybe worshipping?
The fact that they're picking these snakes up, these venomous snakes up more than they're worshipping God.
[00:17:19] Speaker A: Absolutely. I think they are look at what I can do, right.
[00:17:23] Speaker B: That kind of plays along into now.
[00:17:26] Speaker A: They will say, well, God gave me.
[00:17:27] Speaker B: The ability, but really, I don't buy that. I don't buy that. Because how many of them have gotten bitten, died?
[00:17:37] Speaker A: Lots.
[00:17:37] Speaker B: Lots.
[00:17:38] Speaker A: Or lost a finger or thumb.
[00:17:41] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:17:41] Speaker A: Right. Had their calf cut open because they got bitten, poisoned.
[00:17:46] Speaker B: Right.
But here's my point with saying all that. Do we worship?
Just like Paul talking about taking care of his body, and do I set up for this or do I worship what I'm setting up?
[00:18:03] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:18:05] Speaker B: And at the same time, you go to the other end of the spectrum with that and not doing anything to take care of your body, not doing anything to make sure that you're healthy.
What kind of legacy are you leaving for your family? Number one, I'm not an advocate for. Look at me, look at me. Look at me. But I am an advocate for paving the way.
Right. And how are you paving the way for your family? How are you paving the way for your brothers who are alongside of you and the church that's coming along with you or that you're a part of, to be able to minister or to serve the needs of people through ministry and with God?
[00:18:51] Speaker A: Yeah.
It's such a fine line.
I think when I say it's a fine line, it's not a fine line about, are you idolizing something?
[00:19:05] Speaker B: Right.
[00:19:06] Speaker A: I think sometimes that gets out of control without people even recognizing it.
[00:19:10] Speaker B: A lot.
[00:19:11] Speaker A: Right?
[00:19:11] Speaker B: A lot.
[00:19:12] Speaker A: But I think it's a fine line about am I taking care of my body or not? Right. I think there's a lot of people who would say, well, I do take care of myself. Well, do you?
What does it mean to take care of yourself?
And maybe that's something that, from a biblical or scriptural point of view that we have to understand.
I don't know where it's at in the scripture. We're just talking.
[00:19:35] Speaker B: Right? We're talking. But at the same time, where does taking care of yourself cross the line to abusing yourself?
[00:19:45] Speaker A: I don't think I've ever thought about that.
So explain to me what you mean.
[00:19:49] Speaker B: Okay, so, for instance, I like pizza.
[00:19:53] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:56] Speaker B: I'm a pizza guy. I like pizza. Right? But how many slices of pizza do I need to get full versus how many slices of pizza do I need to satisfy myself?
You see what I'm saying?
[00:20:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:11] Speaker B: The Kit Kat that I had this morning was half of a king size kit Kat that I bought yesterday afternoon.
[00:20:17] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:20:24] Speaker B: How much candy or how much junk food do I take as I like this versus abusing my body with it. So that's my main intake.
Take, for instance, somebody who does nothing but drink soft drinks.
Soft drinks is a general euphemism for.
[00:20:49] Speaker A: Yeah, it could be coke, Pepsi, whatever. Mountain Dew, Dr. Pepper, whatever.
[00:20:53] Speaker B: Exactly. And being from the south, soda. Right?
[00:20:56] Speaker A: Soda pop.
[00:20:58] Speaker B: Don't say pap.
But what I'm saying is.
[00:21:03] Speaker A: Or the south, they say, I need a Coke.
[00:21:05] Speaker B: I need a coke.
[00:21:05] Speaker A: And that's for everything.
[00:21:06] Speaker B: What kind of coke do you want? How about a sundrop? That's not a. You know. And I'm from the.
Yeah, yeah. So anyway, what I'm saying is how much do we allow ourselves to enjoy that becomes indulgent, that becomes non beneficial, almost detrimental to what our health is to be able.
You see what I mean?
[00:21:37] Speaker A: I absolutely see what you mean. I absolutely do. And I think part of the problem.
And I'm going to use me as an example. Right. We've talked that. Look, I love food. I do. But I'm also an emotional eater.
[00:21:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:21:49] Speaker A: Right. And I know that. And so with all the stuff going on with work and just everything, I want a great big steak. Oh, yeah, right.
Ten ounce fillet, mashed potatoes, brussels sprouts.
[00:22:05] Speaker B: With an asian salad.
[00:22:06] Speaker A: I want it all.
[00:22:07] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:22:07] Speaker A: And then I want some creme brulee for dessert. Right. And let me tell you, we went to Dallas recently, Linda and I. And if you have never been to a Capitol grill.
[00:22:17] Speaker B: I love Capitol grill. You better go to a capital.
[00:22:20] Speaker A: They don't have one here.
[00:22:21] Speaker B: They don't. I know they don't. That's why I love going to Dallas and Papado's.
[00:22:27] Speaker A: Papado's is amazing, too. So is Risky's barbecue, by the way, if you haven't, risky's is in Fort Worth, so if you're ever going to go to the stockyards.
[00:22:33] Speaker B: Yeah, I haven't been to the stockyard since like 97.
[00:22:37] Speaker A: Yeah.
Next time you're there, go to the stockyards and eat at Risky's barbecue.
So Linda had never been to Capitol Grill. All the times we'd been to Dallas. So I'd been there when I was in Austin and Indianapolis and a bunch of different places working. And so I was like, we're going to go out one night. Let's take some nice clothes. And.
When was the last time you were there?
[00:23:09] Speaker B: 910 somewhere running.
[00:23:11] Speaker A: Okay. They have a new thing. Maybe they had it then. I don't remember them having it until the last couple of years. Yeah, it's a porcini dry rubbed.
[00:23:19] Speaker B: Get out of here.
[00:23:20] Speaker A: Fillet.
[00:23:21] Speaker B: Get.
[00:23:23] Speaker A: With a 15 year balsamic glazed vinaigrette on top of the fillet.
[00:23:29] Speaker B: What size is the fillet?
[00:23:30] Speaker A: Ten ounce.
[00:23:33] Speaker B: Becca, pack your bags.
Wait, there's one in Indianapolis, right?
[00:23:37] Speaker A: There's one in Indianapolis.
[00:23:38] Speaker B: All right, Becca, pack your bags. Going to Indy this weekend, and they.
[00:23:43] Speaker A: Had, like, a mushroom risotto.
[00:23:46] Speaker B: Oh, my goodness.
[00:23:47] Speaker A: With agrat and potatoes. And they do all of it gluten free. You just got to tell them yeah. Right? So asparagus. That was amazing. You name it, right?
[00:23:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:23:57] Speaker A: Amazing.
[00:23:58] Speaker B: Oh, by the way, Rebecca found a recipe for creme brulee the other day that is gluten free.
[00:24:04] Speaker A: Yeah, that's amazing.
[00:24:05] Speaker B: I'll send it to.
[00:24:07] Speaker A: So I say that as we talk about honoring your body.
[00:24:11] Speaker B: Right.
[00:24:11] Speaker A: But with everything going on at work, I'm just like, it's not that I'm honoring the food. It was amazing. Right. I'm not idolizing it. Right. Very much.
[00:24:21] Speaker B: It is capital grill, though.
[00:24:23] Speaker A: But I'm like, it brought me happiness.
[00:24:28] Speaker B: Sure.
[00:24:30] Speaker A: In a lot of stress. Right, right. And I think a lot of people in society today, now, you notice I said it brought me happiness. I didn't say it brought joy. I did not say it brought me joy.
[00:24:42] Speaker B: I know. I was thinking the exact same.
[00:24:43] Speaker A: Right. And I think it's important for people to understand that there is a difference, a huge difference.
[00:24:48] Speaker B: We've talked about it on the podcast.
[00:24:50] Speaker A: Before, and so there are times in my life that I just want to be happy, and maybe that's an ice cream, maybe it's a blizzard. Maybe it's a steak.
[00:25:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:06] Speaker A: But in those instances, I honestly believe that if I would have said, okay, God, I'm going to go here. Right. And we're going to eat this dinner, but I need you to give me strength.
Right.
[00:25:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:26] Speaker A: That I don't have to eat it.
[00:25:27] Speaker B: All right.
[00:25:29] Speaker A: That it's okay. Right?
[00:25:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:31] Speaker A: And I think that's a problem I personally have. And I think it's kind of the way I was raised. Right. Starving kids in Africa. Everything on your plate. Right. I ain't leaving it.
[00:25:43] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:46] Speaker A: I think almost to abuse of my body.
[00:25:50] Speaker B: I believe that. I've done that. Yeah.
We had a chinese buffet.
Classic example. I don't go to them anymore, but we do occasionally.
[00:26:08] Speaker A: Well, it's just because we can't eat gluten. Linda's allergic. Right?
[00:26:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:26:11] Speaker A: And praise God that we have found out that she's allergic to gluten.
She just recently had her last scope, and the doctor said, best one she has ever seen.
[00:26:21] Speaker B: Nice.
[00:26:22] Speaker A: And it's because she doesn't do gluten.
[00:26:24] Speaker B: Right?
[00:26:25] Speaker A: I mean, let's just be honest. The doctor can say whatever they want to say. True. But when she was eating gluten and taking meds. Problems every time.
[00:26:33] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:26:34] Speaker A: She stopped eating gluten and cut the meds in half.
Oh. Best thing we've ever seen.
[00:26:40] Speaker B: Yeah. And the crazy thing about this, and I want to go back to something that you said, okay, because I have a daughter.
One of my daughters is a dietitian. She's about to graduate with her phd as a dietitian. Right. She is amazing in. In what she does.
She's working a full time job and going to school.
She's finished her thesis. Her doctoral.
[00:27:16] Speaker A: That's a lot. Right?
[00:27:17] Speaker B: It's huge. Right. So she's getting ready to graduate. She's just got a couple of more things that she's got to finish up, and then she'll be able to graduate.
Mal is very knowledgeable and knows what she's talking about when she's talking about diets.
[00:27:38] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:38] Speaker B: And things and somebody who.
It amazes me that I have a child that is that smart, especially when their dad is this guy. Right.
[00:27:53] Speaker A: I feel that way about all my kids.
[00:27:55] Speaker B: Exactly.
But Mallory will say, dad, it's not that you can't have any cookies. It's not that you can't have any ice cream.
[00:28:06] Speaker A: You just can't have the box of cookies.
[00:28:08] Speaker B: Exactly. Or the whole thing of ice cream. You can't sit down and eat it all at one.
And don't ever go to the grocery store hungry. I went to publix the other night to get four little things for Rebecca to make for work. And I came home with a box of Krispy.
Know all these different things.
[00:28:26] Speaker A: Right? Yeah.
[00:28:27] Speaker B: I got some pine berries. Have you ever had pine berries?
[00:28:30] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:28:30] Speaker B: Oh, man, they're delicious. So that night, I took a Krispy Kreme donut and I microwaved it for 20 seconds. I put ice cream on top of. It's lactose free.
[00:28:43] Speaker A: We buy lactate ice cream, too.
[00:28:45] Speaker B: Yeah. So I got lactose free ice cream. I put pine berries and chocolate syrup drizzle on top of this thing.
I was in a coma, dude.
[00:28:54] Speaker A: Yeah, it was great.
[00:28:55] Speaker B: It was amazing. But I was literally in a coma. Sugar coma.
[00:29:00] Speaker A: Right.
[00:29:01] Speaker B: And I realized I never, ever want to do this again. Guess what I wanted to do the very next night when I got home?
[00:29:08] Speaker A: You still had some of it.
[00:29:10] Speaker B: I didn't make it two nights in a row.
[00:29:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:13] Speaker B: But that's my.
Oh, speaking of Mallory, there she is. I'll call you back, babe. But anyway, that's my downfall is. Yes, I can have a bowl of ice cream, but it doesn't need to be every night with a krispy Kreme donut ice cream, pine berries and this chocolate glaze on top of it. Doesn't need to be that way. I'm not taking care of myself.
[00:29:42] Speaker A: Yeah, you're right. It doesn't. You're not taking care of yourself.
[00:29:44] Speaker B: So that becomes the problem. Instead of the exception, it becomes the problem.
[00:29:50] Speaker A: Well, and we live in a society that we have been taught that we could have anything we want.
[00:29:56] Speaker B: Sure.
[00:29:57] Speaker A: Right. It's a society of convenience. Right. Whatever's convenient, give it to me. Now that we're not going to say no to anybody. Right. And unfortunately, we're raising our kids to not tell them no either.
Right.
[00:30:12] Speaker B: Yeah, I got an issue with that.
[00:30:14] Speaker A: You and me both. Right. But it's not about no or not giving in or doing. Yeah, it is about not giving in. But we live in this society that it's wrong to tell people no.
[00:30:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:30:32] Speaker A: It's wrong to tell people. You shouldn't do that. It's wrong to tell people anything, really.
And so as a society, me included, right. We're all obese and overweight, and we're doing whatever we want to do when we want to do it, and there's no repercussions. At least we believe there's no repercussions.
[00:30:51] Speaker B: Right.
[00:30:53] Speaker A: We're just lying to ourselves.
[00:30:54] Speaker B: Right.
[00:30:56] Speaker A: We are dishonouring God. I'm not going to try to beat around the bush.
[00:31:00] Speaker B: And here's the end result with that, though, Rick, maybe this is the way that we start to descend to land this. Okay.
When we're not in a position to where we can go, when God tells us to go, we're missing opportunities that the Holy Spirit's putting in front of us.
[00:31:20] Speaker A: We are. Yeah.
[00:31:21] Speaker B: And when we don't take care of ourselves, whether it's not taking our medications.
[00:31:25] Speaker A: Right.
[00:31:26] Speaker B: Whether it's abusing things like Krispy Kreme donuts with ice cream, pine berries and chocolate syrup, or whether it's continually. Now, I know that even if you lived within proximity of Capitol grill, that wouldn't be something that you would do every.
[00:31:46] Speaker A: I mean, I might go there once a quarter.
[00:31:49] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying. Right. So that's like your cheat time.
[00:31:52] Speaker A: Right.
[00:31:53] Speaker B: But what I'm saying is.
[00:31:54] Speaker A: But even in that aspect, I didn't eat gluten I didn't eat. Right.
[00:31:57] Speaker B: But still yet to overeat that way, so that you were the funniest thing. Is the waitress coming back, going, can I get you anything else? A wheelbarrow.
That's funny. Did you enjoy your meal? Obviously I did. I cleaned this plate.
[00:32:16] Speaker A: Right, right.
It gets so clean, you don't have to wash it. Exactly.
[00:32:20] Speaker B: I'll lick that sucker. But the thing is, we put ourselves in situations to where we're not able, because of our own devices, to do what the Lord wants us to do.
[00:32:34] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely.
[00:32:36] Speaker B: And so, taking care of yourself so that you realize that your body is the temple of God, to show that you're able to do what he calls you to do. Let me ask you this. What if Abraham would have been overindulging himself on food when God told him, take off walking?
[00:32:59] Speaker A: Well, I think it would have been a problem.
[00:33:01] Speaker B: So what would have happened in the land of Canaan?
[00:33:03] Speaker A: Well, they wouldn't have made it.
[00:33:04] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:33:05] Speaker A: But the same would go for Moses. Right?
[00:33:08] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:33:08] Speaker A: You say for a lot of people, they walk for 40 years, right.
[00:33:12] Speaker B: Moses must have been an in shape dude, man. He walked for 40 days. 40 years continued.
[00:33:17] Speaker A: Seriously. Right.
[00:33:18] Speaker B: What's your exercise routine? Well, I was in the wilderness for.
[00:33:21] Speaker A: 40 years, and it was a good one.
[00:33:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:33:26] Speaker A: But you're right how it is when.
[00:33:31] Speaker B: You look at the way that we treat our bodies and you look at the way that we know we should treat our bodies.
What is it that you would change today?
[00:33:46] Speaker A: For me, personally?
[00:33:47] Speaker B: For you?
[00:33:48] Speaker A: Yeah.
I.
I don't know. The. Right.
I don't know what. I've tried so many things. Right. So.
[00:34:00] Speaker B: Right. I'm not talking about to lose weight.
[00:34:01] Speaker A: Right. But if I could change something today, I would change how I feel about food has nothing to do with weight. Right. I would change how I feel about what goes into my body. Right. I really wish I could look at food or medicine or whatever it is, as this is what I need to sustain, not what I need to be happy.
[00:34:27] Speaker B: Right.
That's me.
[00:34:30] Speaker A: Which are two different things. And we talked about that. But food was meant to be to keep you alive, and that's the problem. And it's the lie we tell ourselves. Well, it's okay, because I needed to live.
[00:34:47] Speaker B: Right. Yeah.
[00:34:48] Speaker A: Right.
[00:34:49] Speaker B: We get wrapped up in that lie.
[00:34:50] Speaker A: Well, I'm not a drug addict.
I eat because I have to live.
[00:34:57] Speaker B: But are you addicted to the food?
[00:34:59] Speaker A: That's right.
[00:35:01] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:01] Speaker A: That's right.
[00:35:02] Speaker B: Yeah. Man, I'd love to have a ten ounce fillet and a big buttery lobster tail tonight.
[00:35:08] Speaker A: Linda did have the lobster tail also.
It was to die for.
But like I said. Right. That's something that I would do even if there was a capital grew here. I may not even do it once a quarter. It may be once a year. Right.
[00:35:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:31] Speaker A: I love Stony River. I think in Nashville, Stony River's got one of the best steaks.
[00:35:36] Speaker B: Yeah, they do, right? They do.
[00:35:38] Speaker A: They've got an amazing selection of sides in Nashville, but there's three or four here. Stony rivers. There's one at Vanderbilt campus downtown.
[00:35:46] Speaker B: Yeah. Right off west end.
[00:35:47] Speaker A: Right. There's one out in. There's one in Franklin, I think.
Cool springs.
[00:35:53] Speaker B: Cool springs, yeah.
[00:35:55] Speaker A: So there's two, at least that we know about. Love it. I bet it's been five years since we've been there.
[00:36:01] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:36:02] Speaker A: Right. It's just not something we do.
[00:36:04] Speaker B: Right.
And it's not the distance thing as much as. It's just not something we do.
[00:36:09] Speaker A: No, it's just not something we do.
[00:36:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:36:11] Speaker A: We love it, but it's not something we do often.
[00:36:15] Speaker B: Right.
[00:36:16] Speaker A: Probably should.
Date nights would probably be. I probably should start doing that.
[00:36:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:36:23] Speaker A: So then, I know it goes without saying, but we also need to just again mention that taking care of your body is not just physical.
[00:36:33] Speaker B: No, it's not.
[00:36:34] Speaker A: And in fact, that spiritual part, I think is much more of a necessity to assist you with the physical.
[00:36:44] Speaker B: I agree.
[00:36:45] Speaker A: I don't think you can do the physical without the spiritual.
[00:36:47] Speaker B: But I also don't think you can do the spiritual without the physical.
[00:36:50] Speaker A: I agree. They go hand in hand.
[00:36:53] Speaker B: They do.
[00:36:54] Speaker A: But if you're trying to white knuckle.
[00:36:55] Speaker B: It without God, it's not going to happen.
[00:36:58] Speaker A: Right.
When you got sober. Right. Could you white knuckle it without God?
[00:37:03] Speaker B: No, because I tried so many times.
[00:37:05] Speaker A: Right.
[00:37:07] Speaker B: Now, look, let me explain this.
I could string together some clean time, but until I got down on my knees, on my face and said, God, I can't do this without you, that's when I found recovery so that I could stay clean.
But the things that were binding me up, I was able to work through, with his assistance, with his guidance, to be able to remain clean.
[00:37:40] Speaker A: That's right.
[00:37:44] Speaker B: I've heard people talk about God took the desire away. For me to drug. The minute that I turned it over to him was great.
Praise God.
[00:37:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:37:58] Speaker B: You know, he worked a miracle in your life right then.
[00:38:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:38:01] Speaker B: But there were times where I'd be driving down the road and if my steering wheel would taste like Jack Daniels, I'd have licked a leather off that monkey.
[00:38:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:38:12] Speaker B: You know what?
If muster or know there was a process because there were things that God needed me to work out.
The same thing with working out.
When I first started going to the gym, it was to bulk up a little bit and then I got hurt and then to bulk up kept going because I was still eating the same things and using the same type of protein and things like that. And so I got to where I was 40 pounds overweight and I realized when it takes two breaths to reach over, to bend down, to tie my shoes, something's got to change here.
[00:38:56] Speaker A: Halls. Yeah, I mean, I know exactly what you're saying there.
[00:38:59] Speaker B: So I go back to, and that's each shoe, that's not both shoes together, that's two breasts. Right. So you go, okay, hold on, what have I got to do different here? So you change up the routine, you change up the things. It's the same way with coming out of sin, with coming out of addiction. You change up things so that you don't go back to the same things again. And when we take care of our bodies so that our spiritual direction is in place, we don't go back to drinking seven cokes a day.
[00:39:40] Speaker A: Right.
[00:39:40] Speaker B: We don't drink our red bulls and taking your medications correctly and eating the right foods and making sure that you get enough rest.
That's another thing as getting older.
I realize that 09:00 at night is wind down time instead of what's the next thing I need to take care of before I go to bed.
[00:40:05] Speaker A: Yeah, my wind down is 830.
[00:40:08] Speaker B: Well, here's something that I learned is the sleep timer on my phone.
Like after 930 emergencies only are all that comes through for notifications and that's important especially in today's society.
So it's not just what we eat or what we drink but what we involve ourselves in at the same time so that we can get the proper rest. Because if I'm still scrolling on my phone looking at emails or TikToks or whatever at 1030 at night when I'm laying in bed, I should have been asleep an hour ago.
[00:40:46] Speaker A: Yeah, I have a pretty hard and fast rule for myself that when I lay down in bed my phone goes.
[00:40:53] Speaker B: On the nightstand upside down.
[00:40:55] Speaker A: I don't need it upside down. I do have like the whole do not disturb and so I don't get messages from emails and stuff like that. But if it rings, it's going to ring and I'm going to answer it, right? Yeah, but I'm not getting all these ding, ding, ding notifications, right. But I pretty much refuse when I'm laying in bed to have my phone up, like in the bed. And part of that is because I know myself.
[00:41:20] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:41:21] Speaker A: Right. I'm going to get engulfed in whatever crappy real is going on, right. And then that real algorithm is going to keep me going. Right. The next one and the next one.
[00:41:32] Speaker B: And the next one, you know, you got a cramp in your thumb and.
[00:41:35] Speaker A: Next thing you know, it's 11:00 at night and you got to be up at 06:00 a.m. And I'm like, oh, my lord.
[00:41:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:41:41] Speaker A: So that's part of taking care of your body, too. Right.
So it's physical and emotional and spiritual and intellectual and all these things about how do I take care of my body?
How does God want me to take care of my body? Well, the vessel he gave me.
[00:42:00] Speaker B: But when you talk about those things and putting those into perspective, think about the things that you miss the next day because you've been scrolling TikTok reels or Facebook reels or whatever until 1130 at night. And you got to get up. Like, I get up at five in the morning, so I get up at five the next morning, and then I'm still in a fog because I haven't had the sleep that I need.
And so the things that I miss during the day will inevitably include opportunities from the Holy Spirit.
[00:42:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:42:40] Speaker B: And then I'm kicking myself.
[00:42:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:42:42] Speaker B: And then the next thing you know, I'm either anxious or depressed or both.
[00:42:47] Speaker A: What's crazy is I still refuse to get.
I just, I'm not going to do it.
[00:42:53] Speaker B: Well, I watch the funny dog videos on TikTok.
[00:42:57] Speaker A: I know there's some great videos on TikTok. I just refuse to do it.
[00:43:01] Speaker B: I don't know if you haven't done it. Don't.
[00:43:02] Speaker A: Right. Don't I just refuse because I think more than anything, I use the excuse know, well, it's in China or whatever, right? They're stealing your data. And if you read the terms of service, they clearly say they can steal every piece of information off your mean, just clearly in the terms of service, it says that anything on your phone, they have a right to passwords, everything. So that's my excuse for not doing it. But I also know that I would probably love it. I do, right. And I don't need it. There's tons of, like, indian challenger reel after reel after reel. Come on.
[00:43:42] Speaker B: I'm going to be honest with you. The phone call that I got from you today saved me.
[00:43:46] Speaker A: I know. You told me.
Who should be thanking me is your wife.
[00:43:52] Speaker B: She doesn't know yet.
[00:43:54] Speaker A: She may in a minute.
[00:43:56] Speaker B: She will in a minute. Yeah.
[00:43:58] Speaker A: But it's been a good one.
[00:44:00] Speaker B: I've enjoyed it. Yeah, I've enjoyed it.
[00:44:03] Speaker A: So how do you want to land? Just take care of your body. Just spiritually and physically.
[00:44:06] Speaker B: Exactly. Just take care of yourself. Don't let yourself go.
[00:44:11] Speaker A: Yeah. Don't wait until you need an ambulance ride.
[00:44:14] Speaker B: Right.
Look, we're not advocating that you have an Arnold Schwarzenegger body or that you fast for 30 days.
We're not saying that. What we are saying is taking care of yourself so that you're able to do the work of the Lord and that you're taking care of what God has entrusted you with.
So that when the Holy Spirit provides that opportunity, you're ready.
[00:44:48] Speaker A: Amen.
[00:44:49] Speaker B: You're ready.
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